Clan RP

[Kemael]

they can be Shining Guards too ;-) Warder Student Light *snicker*

[Fahad the aiel]

i already have my plans to test people before joining the society , oh hell, i might do that if i get anyone to join rahein sorei

[Audrya]

sorry *blush* didn't mean to leave you out Fahad :-) I forgot about your alt.

Even though the player base is small, I see a lot of great roleplay going on, but often times its hard to get the newbies into the spirit of roleplaying when they're trying to learn the game. Kemael can attest to that, I think. We've restricted clan admittance to level 20, is that right? so how do we encourage newbies to roleplay without forcing it on them? I know it takes a bit more effort, but as players lets try to answer their questions in the most IC way possible while still getting the point across, and if we have to be ooc, use tells. We don't have to play like we're completely ignorant "what do you mean OB?" but just answer any ooc questions ICly.

for example:
newbie: How do I know what my OB is?
answer: Well I see your holding a rather poorly crafted weapon, and when I consider what effect that would have on me, I doubt you'd barely manage enough force to tickle me.
then in tells use the ooc respoonce: con your oponent and look at the damage rating that's our equivalent of OB.

something like that. I know its more work, but it helps subtly climatize them to being IC and thously make the world a whole lot more fun for everyone :-)

Audrya

[Fahad the aiel]

heh, its np.


*Thinks clan rp should be inforced and anyone in a clan should be deducted cps when using say whisper etc oocly*

oh and the lvl 20 thingy dosnt include nationality clans right?

what about reyn? i usually enlist anyone that applies when i am on, should i check thier levels before i do next time?

[Loril]

Actually, there is a typo in shawny's huge post, due to a discussion/compromise after the post was drafted, it is a level 15 requirement, and yes Fahad the nationality clans are excluded.

[the_muffin_man]

I am just wondering how much freedom you guys think Masters should have? And how much of a role a imm should have on the clan. Be wary of asking for too much freedom though, as it may lead your clan into chaos. A scenario that may happen if the clan master gets too much power:
Clan A and clan B are RPishly 'supposed' to be happy with one another.
Bob from clan A attacks and kills Bill, the clan master of clan B.
Bill is fuming and warrants Bob, and demands from Jill, master of clan A, that she declan/punish Bob.
Jill has a close relationship with Bob, and refuses.
Bill is thoroughly pee'ved and starts a big ugly mess.

Anyways, just a scenario, one of many. So what do you think for a clan? Should Masters lead mobs? Have full control of the clan? What commands should he/she get? Etc. etc.

[Loril]

oooh I have an opinion here....

I think the more hands-off the Imms are in clans the better, granted there may be times when the RP staff needs to step in, but that should be a last resort, when the clan is totally out of it's RP bounds, and even then should be initiated by members of the clan(s) in question.

If a Master goes too far, and pisses off the majority of his/her clan, you get a revolt against the Master, in which case the RP imm over that area should step in.  Now at the same time, should the clan decide to overthrow the master without a reason besides someone else says "i could do better" and they rally behind him/her, well that could make for interesting matters.

I do think that the less imm envolvement in clans the better for both the clans, and the RP staff, who is really here for other reasons than to run clans (in a perfect world that is)

[Jetta]

This is in response to the last "gleeman clan" based message. Forgive the reply delay, school has been a Witch with a capital B.

 First of all... thankee! My long-windedness comes in very handy when writing those 10-20 page monster essays which crack-head English teachers love to assign. How ANYONE expects someone to write 20 pages on "The Stone Bear" is simply beyond me. I mean, yes, I did it and all, but all I really did was write about the central theme over and over in different ways. *snicker* hey, my teacher loved it! ;P which proves that she really is a crack head.
 ANYWAY!
 Ciel, my bunny faced Goddess, your ideas are interesting, and I do have a few questions:
 "Each char, could have a possibility roll at creation to see how good they can be at what they do in terms of Gleemanning.  Lets face it not everyone can sing like a dove, or dance like a Fade.  This roll would affect how far they could advance in the ranks in the gleeman 'clan.'"
 Like you said, this is probably one of the things which the imms wont even attempt due to the coding it would take. Hum … from an RP stand, it would be good to make sure that people don't try to RP being Madonna, Janet Jaxon, the back street boi's, and Brittany Spears (AKA the antichrist) all rolled into one. Yet, if some sucky poo-head wants to RP their chr as a super-god/dess of entertainment, then wont that be reflected through the detail of their emotes? I mean, maybe instead of having a set level of singing skill (for example), it could be left to the general public to judge just how well a performer is *by* their performance?  What do you think? Example:
 Emote sings very well. Her voice is good and you like it.
 VS.
 Emote 's voice glides gently upon the nights breeze like starlight turned tangible. The soft cooing of her words captures you in a torrent of passion, raising your pulse even as you gasp in awe.

 "I feel that gleemen should have to apprentice to a specific Gleeman, like Mat, Rand, and Dena did.  This gleeman will decide when these people are ready to be full-fledged Gleeman, through RP logs, tests, or whatever they want."
 I like the idea of having an apprenticeship program running. =) So, if that were the case to see who is a gleeman or who is not, then where would one issue a new cloak if they were to "loose" their old one? From any gleeman mob?

 "...Ranks should only be seen by those in the Gleeman clan, since this doesn't really need to be a 'clan' or have a clan list."
 No question to that, just a comment.
 i like that: it will take the need for having the lower ranks off of the Gleemen, but also serve to protect non-gleemen from claming the Gleemen title. *g*

 Okay, I'm starting to get excited about this. Any other imms have a comment on these ideas? Anyone? Pweeze?

 ~The player of Jetta per'Novem

[the_muffin_man]

ROFL. Janet Jaxon? Gods, I love that.

There has been some responses to the gleeman issue, but on the 'Gleepersons Unite' or something like that thread. Patches was my idea, but I feel that there may be also some credit in a rank-system for the gleemen.
I also like the idea of a gleeman taking an apprentice very, very much. ..I'll post most of my muffinated idea on the gleeman thread shortly...*can feel the tension in the air - No, really, he can...*

J.A.X

[Kemael]

*says in his best Yoda voice*

Always there are two, a master and an apprentice....

for all those aspiring DF gleemen wannabees ;-)

[Fahad the aiel]

yeah, most of our newbies come from the unnamed mud, where rp is non-existant, so they expect the same thing here, we should try to enlighten them a little bit imo.....
about channels.
are tells ic or ooc?
are csays ic or ooc?
are gossips ic or ooc?

[Arilyn]

Any idea when the concept of wagons will be introduced?

I would like to become a member of the Merchant Guild.  However, being also a dodgy woman it is impractical to carry all my goods on my body.      

Any advice? (other than go armor)

Arilyn

[Loril]

Just a note on IC and OOC channels:

clan channels, overclan channels, says, tells, asks, whispers, saytos, emotes, socials, etc are all IC.  As well as ALL channeling etc.

newbie and gossip channels are OOC, as well as any interaction with an Immortal in his/her own body, interaction with MOBS is IC all of this is covered in our RP rules which are posted on the Mortal Information board in game, or on the website at www.mirrorsmud.net

[yurai]

My opinion on clan RP:

-Gleeman: How about instead of making it a clan, why not more like a title. I mean if an imm notices that a person with EXCELLENT,( srious excellency in rp:D), rp and that that person doesn't belong to anything beside a secret clan. I say only a secret clan, because if they belonged to a country clan and were of a high enough rank, it'd be strange and against obvious rules of rp to see a noble go around singing and dancing and doing the 'tralala' thing. They could ask them to take on the title of gleemen, but of course the imm would have to make sure the person can recite stories well and do cool retarted tricks.
And when rp imms decided that person spent enough time as a gleeman and got really good at it, they could take on the task of being a court-bard
That's all I have for the moment.

4 posts in a row...*Fear the mud-deprived, rp-hungry Illianer*

[Boogieman]

My own opinion is that currently the people in clans do NOT RP too much for the comfort. I mean come on, I see people who don't RP at all, I would have thought clanned people would RP, and be actually forced to that (hey come on, they have choosen their career) so I expect, from here on now, that those silly clanned people start RPing! Oh I see people who are not in clans, are lower than the required "15-20 level", that RP more than the clanned people all together, and this is very disturbing due the fact that the people who are forced to RP don't!

*bohs, wipes sweat*